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phpBB as a not hosted app

Postby ce3c » 15 Jun 2009 16:10

You could install phpBB as a non-hosted app I believe: SF.net provides MySQL database services on a opt-in basis.
http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/source ... ki/Project database
That would allow installing styles and smilies =)

Other links:
backing up hosted apps: http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/source ... 20facility
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Re: phpBB as a not hosted app

Postby ocexyz » 15 Jun 2009 19:49

If that would need to start whole the game once again then I am against.... ;)
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Re: phpBB as a not hosted app

Postby cyko_01 » 15 Jun 2009 22:35

+2

but for the styles (stupid dyslexic layout). I couldn't care less about the smilies. It would also mean we wouldn't have to use our SF usernames and passwords to login and they could be properly remembered

edit: it would also result in a friendlier URL
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Re: phpBB as a not hosted app

Postby kevogod » 15 Jun 2009 23:00

Since when did SourceForge turn off smiles? I thought that was my job. :-)
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Re: phpBB as a not hosted app

Postby smokex » 16 Jun 2009 02:07

Do we have direct ftp/ some file manager access to the sourceforge shareaza store?
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Re: phpBB as a not hosted app

Postby cyko_01 » 17 Jun 2009 13:05

another HUGE advantage to this would be that noob users would not have to sign up for a sourceforge account to read the forums
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Re: phpBB as a not hosted app

Postby ce3c » 17 Jun 2009 13:34

noob users use limewire
that should change
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Re: phpBB as a not hosted app

Postby kathw » 17 Jun 2009 21:42

I could read the forum when I came here.. before I logged in :)
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Re: phpBB as a not hosted app

Postby kevogod » 17 Jun 2009 23:51

cyko_01 wrote:another HUGE advantage to this would be that noob users would not have to sign up for a sourceforge account to read the forums

Users only prompted for a login and password if they use an HTTPS link.
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Postby aaron_walkhouse » 19 Jun 2009 17:34

Maybe we should just move to my place. I can do anything there,
maybe even go to vBulletin again if we can scrape up the license fee.

We've already found that we can install and use MediaWiki.
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Re: phpBB as a not hosted app

Postby kathw » 19 Jun 2009 20:31

We are depending on SF at the moment Aaron, but hold that thought you had :D
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Re: phpBB as a not hosted app

Postby cyko_01 » 20 Jun 2009 04:12

kathw wrote:We are depending on SF at the moment Aaron, but hold that thought you had :D

not that we don't trust you, but sourceforge is still the most reliable and widely trusted place to host our content. They have a great reputation and they have treated us well. I don't understand why everyone wants to move away from SF
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Postby aaron_walkhouse » 20 Jun 2009 07:57

This forum software feels like a big step down because not only is it
phpBB, it's an obsolete version with some of the controls disabled.

Sourceforge is a busy place so performance takes a noticeable hit.

This place doesn't have our colours or it's feel. We're back to
being renters in the internet version of Motel 6 instead of
our own penthouse suite with all the trimmings.

Shall I go on, and on? :lol:
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Re: phpBB as a not hosted app

Postby cyko_01 » 20 Jun 2009 15:29

that was the whole point of starting this thread. hosting it on sourceforge, but not using there hosted apps service so we could customize it as we like
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Postby aaron_walkhouse » 20 Jun 2009 17:40

I think performance will always be an issue here. These servers are heavily shared.
Technutopia shares a server but all other sites on it are almost completely idle.
As for trust, we're the BearShare people that didn't abandon it or the users.

Besides, I'd love to see Vinnie's face if we join up on the same site. :twisted:
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Re: phpBB as a not hosted app

Postby ocexyz » 21 Jun 2009 16:17

I think we should think about this as for longer time SourceForge seems may not to be the place capable to hold our trafic w/o problems IMHO.
BUT 1) enter page (the top level I mean like eg wiki MainPage, download page, Shareaza home page) should stay here, so if anyone would do whatever with next domain that should be problem only of redirecting links to another one.
BUT 2) there will be backups, and they always will be periodic and at disposal of more then one person, just in case if someone would decide to do sth against Shareaza
BUT 3) I think there should be initial screen saying: "Shareaza is open source and Shareaza trademark is owned by Shareaza Development Team. By entering here or to any page/site of the Shareaza project, especially the site, forums, bugtrucker, you accept this and also accept that all what you will contribute to project will become a GPL3 licensed content and you do it on voluntaree basis. If you do not accept this you express this by not entering. To enter clik [OK] or [I accept this statement and confirm this is true], please note you IP will be recorded as a prove of evidence that you have accepted the above initial terms of use and status of Shareaza trademark. For not enter leave this page and do not enter again until you will accept this."
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BUT 4) I think there should be added a screen in instalator saying: "Please notice that Shareaza is open source software, and as such was in past an subject of enemy actions like domain hijacking or publishing malware soft pretending legitimate Shareaza client. So we kindly ask if you would notice sth outstanding or abnormal please let us know and consult Shareaza team at IRC (there is IRC built in this client) or consult Shareaza page in Wikipedia or see Shareaza website or post at Shareaza forum or ask other but trusted Shareaza users. This way you will be able to check if any problems of this kind just has happened. By informing you about this way we try to prevent Shareaza users against scum and malware attacks, as we believe that prevention is best way to avoid problems and we just can't foresee all possible kinds of actions against free open software. It has also realised that user awareness of this threat was the best protection for users against problems. You can question or read more at forum in section <security> "

We most probably will need a better place also because daily traffic was noticed to be 12k unique persons a day, if I have understood statistics properly. This was probably also motivation to this hijack. Slow working was a reason to move last time as I remember, and we will face to this sooner or later. But this time security should be taken seriously, and prevent at last from threats we are aware. And we don't have to do it until we will be sure all aspects has been considered and we are prevented from "surprises". We also can think about many variants like different locations etc. etc.
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Re: phpBB as a not hosted app

Postby kevogod » 21 Jun 2009 16:56

Forums are staying here. End of discussion.
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Re: phpBB as a not hosted app

Postby cyko_01 » 21 Jun 2009 17:31

kevogod wrote:Forums are staying here. End of discussion.

agreed.

I don't care how much traffic we get or how slow the site is, as long as it is always available. Sourceforge was hacked/hijacked, and fully restored. sourceforge will not be paid off by discordia because there impeccable reputation is on the line and they will lose the trust of thousands of open source projects hosted there. sourceforge has a proven record and that is invaluable. Any other solution besides sourceforge introduces several points of vulnerability

did we not learn anything the last 2 times this happened?!!!
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Re: phpBB as a not hosted app

Postby old_death » 21 Jun 2009 19:41

kevogod wrote:Forums are staying here. End of discussion.
No problem if we can make them look somehow better. This reduced default look is just annoying ;)
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