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				When to port forward?
				
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06 Jun 2010 21:16by siavoshkc
				It may seem a weird question because I don't know what exactly am I asking.
When people do need to configure port forwarding? I have connected my two PCs to internet without port forwarding. In what situation this won't work? Is it because of old routers which don't do NAT?
			 
			
		
			
				Re: When to port forward?
				
Posted: 
07 Jun 2010 02:44by aaron_walkhouse
				It is because of routers that do.
The router has to know which of your computers to send the incoming connection to, so you give it a rule 
for a specific port number for one computer and another port number for the second computer.
The router then routes the incoming connection to the right computer when the incoming connection for a certain port.
Make sure your Shareaza uses different ports on each computer so the router can serve both of them.
			 
			
		
			
				Re: When to port forward?
				
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07 Jun 2010 05:51by siavoshkc
				
			 
			
		
			
				Re: When to port forward?
				
Posted: 
07 Jun 2010 17:50by brov
				Networks will work, but you are limited. Not able to accept incoming connections = less available download sources for you. Simple...
There are routers doing UPnP and if you have turned on UPnP in your software then it will forward ports for you.
			 
			
		
			
				Re: When to port forward?
				
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08 Jun 2010 19:58by siavoshkc
				THANK YOU, aaron_walkhouse and brov
I didn't run the connection test after configuring my router for both PCs. So I didn't notice I couldn't accept incoming connections. What is intresting is I had acceptable search results and no special symptom to make me suspicious.
I port forwarded it right now with your help and its working fine. 

 
			
		
			
				Re: When to port forward?
				
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09 Jun 2010 22:18by siavoshkc
				Just another question. How is it that I cannot accept incoming connections but other computers can send packet to me? For instance how router knows incoming packets for a requested website are for which PC?
			 
			
		
			
				Re: When to port forward?
				
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11 Jun 2010 13:10by brov
				That's how NAT works. If connection is from the inside - it records source address and port, and dest address and port, then before packet is sent to the internet it rewrites source address to be your WAN address. Now if received some reply packet, nat looks up its table and send you the packet (it knows the destination now). 
I hope I explained it clearly 

 
			
		
			
				Re: When to port forward?
				
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11 Jun 2010 15:54by siavoshkc
				
			 
			
		
			
				Re: When to port forward?
				
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11 Jun 2010 17:47by brov
				Most likely it will reject any new connections.